Debates of March 4th, 1997

This is page numbers 1067 - 1096 of the Hansard for the 13th Assembly, 4th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library. The word of the day was chairman.

Topics

Members Present
Item 1: Prayer
Gender Parity
Tribute To Cape Dorset Mace Designers
Concerns With Trail Cross Facility Privatization
Passing Of Community Leader In Igloolik - Sarah (aqiaroq) Konoo
Contracting In Nunavut Communities
Support For Tl'oondih Healing Society
Hunter Traffic On The Colomac Road
GNWT Staffing Policies
Flexibility In Medical Travel
Expedient Appointment Of Interim Commissioner
New Headlight Legislation
Importance Of Access Roads
Western Constitutional Process
Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Facilitator For Constitutional Consultation Process
State Of Affairs At Trail Cross Facility
Concerns With Affirmative Action Policy
Core Funding To Tl'oondih Healing Society
Non-medical Escorts For Elders
Status Of Leases For Social Housing
Construction Contract In Clyde River
Community Consultation For Access Roads
Funding For Bylaw Officers
Library Closures
Federal Involvement In Constitutional Process
Summer Student Hiring Program
Return To Written Question 14-13(4): Staffing Appeals
Policy On Non-competitive Contracts
Appointment Of An Information And Privacy Commissioner
Extended Adjournment
Item 16: Motions
Extended Adjournment
Item 18: Second Reading Of Bills
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
To Provide A Comprehensive List Of Subsidies To The Social Programs Committee
To Provide A Plan For The Integration Of Seniors' Programs And Subsidies
To Provide An Analysis Of The Impacts Of User Say/user Pay
To Develop An Approach To Deal With Forced Growth
To Amend Sub-clause 1(9) Of Bill 7: Municipal Statutes Amending Act
To Amend Sub-clause 2(7) Of Bill 7: Municipal Statutes Amending Act
To Amend Sub-clause 3(6) Of Bill 7: Municipal Statutes Amending Act
Item 20: Report Of Committee Of The Whole
Item 21: Third Reading Of Bills
Bill 7-13(4) Municipal Statutes Amending Act
Item 22: Orders Of The Day

Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you. Total expenditures, $12,539,000.

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you. Does the committee agree that the departmental estimates are concluded?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you. I would like to thank the Speaker and the witnesses. Does the committee agree that Committee Report 2, 3 and 4 are concluded?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you. I will deal with the next item, Committee Report 6-13(4), Standing Committee on Social Programs. Agreed?

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Some Hon. Members

Agreed.

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Mr. Enuaraq.

Committee Motion 40-13(4): To Provide A Comprehensive List Of Subsidies To The Social Programs Committee
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Tommy Enuaraq Baffin Central

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I would like to make a motion.

I MOVE that this committee recommends that a comprehensive list of subsidies available through the social envelope should be provided to the Standing Committee on Social Programs by September 1, 1997.

Committee Motion 40-13(4): To Provide A Comprehensive List Of Subsidies To The Social Programs Committee
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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Enuaraq. Your motion is in order. To the motion. Question is being called. Mr. Erasmus.

Committee Motion 40-13(4): To Provide A Comprehensive List Of Subsidies To The Social Programs Committee
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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. At the present time, there are dozens of subsidies that are available through the social envelope. There are even some outside of the social envelope, such as in MACA. It is very difficult to determine where to make changes unless you can look at the overall picture. At this time, there does not seem to be a comprehensive list of subsidies. The Social Envelope Committee wants to have this comprehensive list prepared so we will be able to do a better job in the future. We have put a date of September 1, 1997, by which we would like to have the list completed by. Thank you.

Committee Motion 40-13(4): To Provide A Comprehensive List Of Subsidies To The Social Programs Committee
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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Erasmus. To the motion. Question is being called. All those in favour? All those opposed? The motion is carried. Mr. Enuaraq.

Committee Motion 41-13(4): To Provide A Plan For The Integration Of Seniors' Programs And Subsidies
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March 3rd, 1997

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Tommy Enuaraq Baffin Central

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I would like to make another motion.

I MOVE that this committee recommends a plan to integrate the GNWT subsidies and seniors should be provided to the Standing Committee on Social Programs by September 1, 1997.

AND FURTHER, that the seniors' programs and subsidies integration should be developed in consultation with the NWT Seniors' Society, addressing the idea of consolidating all programs for seniors under one authority, contain an action plan for implementing the reform of senior subsidies and programs. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Enuaraq. To the motion. Mr. Erasmus.

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Roy Erasmus Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The committee is making this motion again because there are various subsidies and programs for seniors. They do not seem to be integrated and well co-ordinated. For instance, some subsidies and programs are available at the age of 60 and some are available at age 65. We want the government to integrate all these subsidies and programs so they are more consistent. We also want this done in consultation with the NWT Seniors' Society, rather than coming to them with a plan and saying: "what do you think of it?" The Seniors' Society has indicated they wish to work in conjunction with the government in developing this plan and we agree. Also, the Seniors' Society had indicated they would like to have all their programs for seniors under one authority. We know as people get more elderly, it is a lot harder to get around, especially in a place like Yellowknife where you can go to 10 different buildings for 10 different departments. That is the reason we want to consolidate the programs for seniors under one authority. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Committee Motion 41-13(4): To Provide A Plan For The Integration Of Seniors' Programs And Subsidies
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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Erasmus. To the motion. Question is being called. All those in favour of the motion? All those opposed? The motion is carried. Mr. Enuaraq.

Committee Motion 42-13(4): To Provide An Analysis Of The Impacts Of User Say/user Pay
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Tommy Enuaraq Baffin Central

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I would like to make another motion.

I MOVE that this committee recommend that each department in the social envelope provide analysis of the financial and operational impact of each user say/user pay initiative to the Standing Committee on Social Programs by October 1997. Thank you.

Committee Motion 42-13(4): To Provide An Analysis Of The Impacts Of User Say/user Pay
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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Enuaraq. To the motion. Mr. Picco.

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Edward Picco Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, because user-pay/user-say initiatives cross all government departments, I wonder if the mover of the motion could explain exactly why, for example, they go to a government office and ask for all departments to come up with this because of logistic information, the cost of bringing this for just one committee when I guess all committees might be interested in it.

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Picco. I believe the Member for Iqaluit is directing a question towards the Member from Baffin Central, Mr. Enuaraq. Mr. Enuaraq.

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Tommy Enuaraq Baffin Central

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I will ask my deputy chair of social programs, Mr. Miltenberger, to respond.

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The Chair

The Chair Vince Steen

Thank you, Mr. Enuaraq. Mr. Miltenberger.

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Michael Miltenberger

Michael Miltenberger Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I was not paying complete and undivided attention to the words that Mr. Picco uttered. However, I think the concern was why did we not take this to government ops and that is a good suggestion. It has been raised and I think it is something that will be coming to government ops, but we do have a specific concern in our committee. I think government ops, and hopefully other committees as well, will look at this issue so that we can put forward a broader request. Thank you.